The Fighting Pattons (Audible Audio Edition) Adams Morgan Brian M Sobel Inc Blackstone Audio Books
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Brian Sobel's The Fighting Pattons is an extraordinary history of one American family's love of war. It includes the exploits of Hugh Mercer, a famous Revolutionary War general who married in the Patton line, and Colonel Waller Tazewell Patton, who was mortally wounded at Gettysburg while taking part in Pickett's Charge. But the primary focus is on the careers of the 20th-century Pattons World War II legend General George S. Patton, Jr., and his lesser-known namesake and son, Major General George S. Patton, who fought in Korea and Vietnam and now lives quietly on the family farm in Hamilton, Massachusetts.
The life and thoughts of Major General Patton - an interesting figure in his own right - give us insights into his more famous father that can only come from a son forced to live and work in a great man's shadow.
The Fighting Pattons (Audible Audio Edition) Adams Morgan Brian M Sobel Inc Blackstone Audio Books
Americans or any nationality for that matter should take the time to read about the Pattons. Then, from most who read it, you will think twice about how we are changing as a society, from the days of the Pattons (and other great families) to a whinny gimme gimme society. We must begin to change our attitudes about what is owed to us, and instead think of what we can do for one another.Product details
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The Fighting Pattons (Audible Audio Edition) Adams Morgan Brian M Sobel Inc Blackstone Audio Books Reviews
The voice of (now the late) George S. Patton the younger - clear to hear because of his words in italics.
Just couldn't quite get into it.
Solid 3-star rating.
I would like to provide textual content on that Rating as part of this Review, however am unable to do so. The ACDLT has restricted ability to Comment or Reply (without any prior warning, any specific notification, any identification of specific alleged problems or appeal).
That being so, an inability to respond to Review comments by others (positive, negative, indifferent) would be unfair to myself and others.
But it is a solid 3-star book in this genre.
Illuminating
What a wonderful book. I read it to my husband on a long road trip. He is a vet and I am an Army brat. The parts on Vietnam Nam were particularly good.
The American flag is a symbol of patriotic American values, principles and freedom.
It takes willing patriotic men, to live, and fight for their country.
`The Fighting Pattons,' is an honest, historical portrait of U.S. Army General George S. Patton, Jr., and his son, Major General George S. Patton. Their combined military service adds up to seventy years of dedication to their country.
'The Fighting Pattons,' serves as an official family biography, and is inspiring, fascinating, memorable, and exciting memoir of father and son.
The two fighting Pattons, were engaged in five American conflicts, that shaped the 20th century, from the punitive action taken in Mexico in 1916 through Vietnam.
"The Third Army moved further and faster and engaged more divisions in less time than any other army in the history of the United States, possibly in the history of the world." (81,522 square miles of territory in nine months had been liberated or conquered by Patton's Third Army)
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."
"We herd sheep. We drive cattle. We lead people. Lead me, follow me or get out of my way."
---- General George S. Patton, Jr.
"On the atomic battlefield leadership must be personal. Troops must be aware of the commander's presence and know that he accepts the same risks of horrible and vaporized death that they do. It is the task of leadership to strengthen the will of the troops."
---- Major General George S. Patton
I read this on the heels of reading two other books about Patton; one by O'Reilly, which was my introduction to O'Reillly as an author, and the other called Target Patton by Wilcox, which seems to be the source material for the O'Reilly book. I knew little about Patton so I came into these fairly objectively.
This Sobel book is interesting because of its content but has some deficiencies. First of all, the font is so small I can hardly read it. It makes a decent narrative challenging because all the text looks like footnotes or quotes.
Second, and most significant, the organization is choppy. Even half way through, the author continues to be very confusing about who he's talking about....I surmise there were 3 Pattons, George S. Patton JR, who is the famous wwII general, George Patton, who is his son and also was an accomplished general, and I guess George Patton who was juniors Dad. You follow this? Neither did I. The author mixes these around frequently so that he'll refer to George Patton, Patton, and George S. Patton interchangeably and frankly it is only by context and the time and events associated with the information that I've been able to figure out which one he's talking about.
There is quite a bit of interesting material and there, of course, is some interesting anecdotal stuff about the Pattons, such as George (the younger) almost failing out of West Point and Patton (the elder) advocating for him based on the fact that he also nearly failed for the same reasons; the personalities of other family members, the relationship between the father and son. There is far, far more information about the person and general Patton (WWII) in the Wilcox book.
Mr. Sobel is completely dismissive of the assassination theories but he does not do himself or the detractors of these theories any justice. First off he dismisses it as complete nonsense, then when he later discusses the actual accident and death it is restricted to a few pages. Entire books painstakingly researched exist that contain vastly more information about the death of Patton than there is total information in the Sobel book....by that I mean that Sobel's entire treatment of the Fighting Pattons is less thorough than books which focus just on the death of Patton. Figure it out for yourself. 3-5 pages about the death vs. 300 pages, footnotes, detailed interviews, obituaries, FOA research, chronicles, archives, forensics. Which one addresses the death more thoroughly? There are brief comments by several people dismissing any talk of the accident and Mr. Sobel crows about the fact that only he has interviewed 2 of the 3 people who were actually there -Hap Gay and Woodring, the driver, but these are scantily addressed. There is virtually no real investigative work exploring numerous other aspects of the accident - Douglas Bazata's alleged role, the disappearance of the intoxicated driver of the car that hit Patton, irregularities about the vehicle, the fact that many reports about it vanished, mysterious bystanders who vanished as well, and the interviews of numerous other people throughout the military and government who really beg to differ with Mr. Sobel's blithe assertion that this was nonsense. Dismissing an assassination theory with this degree of research would be like saying he talked with Abe and Mary Todd Lincoln and no one else did, hence there was no conspiracy. Or that he talked with Connolly, Jacki-O, and the driver and ergo there was no irregularity in the JFK assassination. What about all the other evidence - forensics, witnesses, confessions, masterminds, and so forth? For example there are real and legitimate questions about the nature of Patton's injury. Why was Hap Gay still sitting in his seat while Patton had been hurtled forward to the partition of the passenger compartment, then hurled back into Gay's lap? Do the math. That makes no sense. There were no lap or shoulder belts then.
So from the perspective of an interesting book about an interesting family this is a valuable addition as biography.
As far as a detailed scholarly approach to the history of General George S. Patton, the WWII general, it is sketchy and in no way equals the thoroughness of Mr. Wilcox's book.
Americans or any nationality for that matter should take the time to read about the Pattons. Then, from most who read it, you will think twice about how we are changing as a society, from the days of the Pattons (and other great families) to a whinny gimme gimme society. We must begin to change our attitudes about what is owed to us, and instead think of what we can do for one another.
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